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| The Wanted released eight songs on six different singles, four on The Detroit Sound and two national releases on A&M.
The names of the band are well-known: they put them on the labels of their 45s. Other information is not easy to come by and I don't find them mentioned in any detail in my usual sources. Arnie DeClark - rhythm guitar All their releases have excellent songs. "Here to Stay" is an amazingly mature ballad, with a great nasal lead vocal, written by Tim Shea and Chip Steiner. The flip "Teen World" is their most basic song, sounding much like "California Sun" with new lyrics, but it's a fine party song of the mid-60s and probably their rarest release. It was written by C. Shermetaro. The Detroit Sound Recording Co. was located at 12730 E. Warren. I've read that Chip Steiner's father Irv Steiner owned the Detroit Sound label, which usually featured soul acts. The label changed the graphics and re-released "Here to Stay", backed with a good version of "In the Midnight Hour" that reached #1 on WKNR in Detroit & Dearborn in March of '67, and #3 on CKLW in Windsor, Ontario. They appeared on Robin Seymour's TV show Swingin' Time, probably several times. I don't know which song was originally featured in the clip below as the audio is dubbed in. A&M picked this up for national release in April, 1967 and bought a full page ad in Billboard for it with a neat watch graphic. As I can tell, the furthest it reached in the national charts was "bubbling under" at #128, with Michael & the Messengers version of the song on the U.S.A. label at #121.Too many competing versions kept these from breaking out nationally, although each has a distinct style. They had one further release on A&M, a fine pop number with horns called "Big Town Girl" backed with another I haven't heard, "Don't Worry Baby". Despite being a Detroit Sound production I believe this single was only released on A&M. Their next single was the tough "Lots More Where You Came From", with the lyric "girl I'm picking up on your bad vibrations"! It was written and produced by Dugg Brown (aka Doug Brown of the Omens and producer of Bob Seger, Del Shannon, Southwind, etc), backed with a version of "Knock on Wood" that I haven't heard. Their last on the Detroit Sound label was a good take on Bob Seger's "East Side Story" backed "Sad Situation", which is simply "Lots More Where You Came From" with a different title. An email from a friend of the band was the inspiration for this post:
Discography: The Detroit Sound 222 (plain red label) - Here to Stay (Shea - Steiner) / Teen World (C. Shermetaro) A&M 844 - Here to Stay / Midnight Hour (March, 1967) Source: WKNR chart info from ARSA. ![]() |
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The Wanted
Submitted by Chas Kit on May 10, 2012 - 9:10pm. Wanted | US | Michigan | Detroit | Grosse Pointe | A&M | Detroit SoundAl's Untouchables and the Orphans
Submitted by Chas Kit on May 4, 2012 - 4:57pm. Al's Untouchables | Orphans | Untouchables | US | Iowa | Cedar Rapids | Hunt![]() The Untouchables, 1966 from left: Bruce Nunamaker, Ron Bressler, Tom Hankins and Dick Douglas |
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| Al's Untouchables' "Come On Baby" / "Stick Around" is one of long-time classics of 60s garage rock. Original copies are rare and when they do sell, go for well over $1,000. The G45 Central site described "Come On Baby" as "raw energy that may never be equalled", all within two minutes of playing time. After the band establishes the pounding rhythm, lead guitarist Dick Douglas solos for nearly half a minute, and continues whenever there's a break in the lead vocals.
Though overshadowed by "Come On Baby", the flip "Stick Around" is excellent bluesy r&b. The label for "Stick Around" has "Douglas" in parentheses, referring to Dick Douglas on lead vocals. There were actually two different groups on Hunt Records called the Untouchables. The first group consisted of Al Huntziner (drums), Larry Fountain (guitar), Ernie Dvorak (saxophone), Ron Hamad (guitar), Bob Keith (keyboards), Bill Alley (bass), Mel Winder (guitar), Frank Glaser (guitar) and Bob Gaston. Al & the Untouchables released one 45 on Hunt, "Church Key" / "Danny Boy" that I haven't heard. Then came an all-new Untouchables - but that story is best told by bassist and vocalist Tom Hankins. Tom also sent in the photos seen here:
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They began drawing packed venues. In 1966 the entire band was kicked out of high school because the school board deemed their hair as “unfit”, as it covered the top of their ears and almost went over their collars. |
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They dumped their manager Huntzinger and changed the band name to The Orphans at this point after finding out he had been pocketing up to 80% of the band’s pay before dividing the rest up with the musicians. |
![]() ![]() click for larger image CAC 2004, from left: Verne Gagne, Jack Brisco and Tom Hankins |
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Tom kindly answered some of my questions about the Untouchables and also about the unreleased recordings of the Orphans:
Despite the muddy sound, the Orphans' "Without You" is an excellent cut and deserves to be heard. As far as I can tell it's never been comped or featured before now. Norman Goodman engineered it and Larry Herbst and Dick Michaels are listed as producers. I can't find much further info about Herbst or Michaels as far as the music biz goes. |
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Any additional info would be appreciated Hunt 450 - Al and the Untouchables - Church Key / Danny Boy |
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Pharaoh Records Discography, McAllen, TX
Submitted by Chas Kit on May 2, 2012 - 1:25am. US | Texas | McAllen | Pharaoh![]() |
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| Jimmy Nichols ran a recording studio in McAllen, Texas and owned the Pharaoh label. The Zakary Thaks and Bad Seeds used Nichol's studio for their early singles. I've read that the studio burned down years ago with whatever stock and master tapes was left in it.
Pharaoh discography: Any help with this would be appreciated LP: 45s: 101 - Ray Wray Quartet - A Song Is Born / When Your Love Has Gone (with picture sleeve - see above) I had erroneously listed 141 and 142 as by the Playboys of Edinburgh, but they were not named after the Scottish city, but rather after Edinburg, TX, a small town northeast of McAllen. See individual entries on The Cruisers, Christopher & the Souls, Simon Reyes and Noe Pro & the Semi-tones for more info on those bands. There were other Pharaoh labels, including one from Chicago (releases by Hot Coke), and another on a green label that released Chicago: Unknown location (pressed either in NY or Hollywood): Thank you to Gilbert Rodriguez for his help with this discography and to Ed Nadorozny for the Ron Wray sleeve scan. Thank's also to Bob and Drunken Hobo for the additional entries. I had previously included a shorter version of this discography in the entry on Simon Reyes. |
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The Solid State
Submitted by Chas Kit on April 22, 2012 - 9:15pm. Solid State | US | Texas | Bandera | El Paso | Elpa| I haven't seen any concrete info on the Solid State. I've read the band was from Bandera, Texas, but the Elpa label was located at 5214 Beautonne in El Paso. El Paso is close to eight hours' drive from Bandera, while San Antonio is within an hour, Austin two hours drive, and even Dallas is closer.
The A-side is the very moody "Wait and See", written by Jerry Walker and Sam Lott. The flip is "The Lynching", a fascinating original by Jerry Walker with an upbeat rhythm and a catchy six-note guitar line, plus good soloing on the outro. The harmonies are cheery, but the words are most definitely not!
I have to wonder what inspired this song - perhaps the photos of lynchings that took place in the 40s and 50s where the crowd looks ebullient. Boths songs were published by Linjo Music. BMI's database lists the song as one of Jerry Jeff Walker's compositions, but I wonder if that's correct, as his usual publisher is Grouper Music, and by the time the Solid State released their 45 in October, 1968 Jerry Jeff was part of Circus Maximus and hadn't made a name for himself as a songwriter yet. Though from upstate New York, Jerry Jeff busked through Texas in the mid-60s, so it is possible he was a member of this group or gave some songs to them. ![]() |
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Jimmy Cliff & the New Generation
Submitted by Nick Warburton on April 20, 2012 - 12:18pm. Jimmy Cliff | New Generation | Sound System | England | London![]() Hamilton & The Hamilton Movement, clockwise from front: Ron Thomas, Mick Fletcher, Gary Hamilton, Tony Sinclair, Mel Wayne, Dave Mahoney and (sitting down) Phil Wainman All except Gary Hamilton (and John Droy, not in photo) were in The New Generation (version 2) backing Jimmy Cliff. |
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| Jamaican reggae singer Jimmy Cliff is best known to international audiences for the songs “Sitting in Limbo”, “You Can Get It If You Really Want” and “Many Rivers to Cross”, taken from the 1972 soundtrack album The Harder They Come. One of the first artists to introduce reggae to a wider audience, Cliff started performing in his native Jamaica during the early 1960s where he was spotted by Island Records founder Chris Blackwell, who brought him to England in October/November 1965.
Over the next four years, Cliff worked the UK club scene with a series of backing groups – The New Generation, The Sound System, The Shakedown Sound and The Wynder K Frog Band, playing a mixture of soul and R&B. Jimmy Cliff & The New Generation (November 1965-February 1966) Jimmy Cliff – lead vocals Cliff’s first band, The New Generation, was a Birmingham group known as Roy Everett’s Blueshounds, whose most notable member was future Fairport Convention bass player Dave Pegg. The Blueshounds were good mates of The Spencer Davis Group, who put in a good word for the band when Chris Blackwell was looking for musicians to support Cliff on the road. In November 1965, Blackwell released The Spencer Davis Group’s “Keep on Running”, the band’s first number one single. Around the same time, Blackwell signed The Blueshounds to the agency he co-ran, West End Promotions Ltd, which also represented The Steampacket, Hedgehoppers Anonymous, The Alex Harvey Go Soul Show, Millie Small, Ayshea Brough and the newly arrived Jimmy Cliff. With Pete Hodge(s) taking over from Roy Everett, The Blueshounds attended an “audition” recording session at Cecil Sharpe House in London on 23 November 1965 with promoter George Webb (The Spencer Davis Group’s agent) and DJ Alan Freeman. Also in attendance that day were Jimmy Cliff and Ayshea Brough, a young singer that George Webb was trying to launch on the scene, who’d been working with future Hedgehoppers Anonymous drummer Glenn Martin. Passing the audition, The Blueshounds were renamed The New Generation and Cliff travelled up to Birmingham to stay with Dave Pegg’s family for about two weeks while rehearsals took place to ready the band for the road. Singers Ayshea Brough and Pete Hodge(s) were also added to the touring band and had their own vocal spots in the show. The (incomplete) gig listing below, which is taken from Dave Pegg’s scrap book, shows that the band’s debut took place at the Ritz Ballroom in King’s Heath, West Midlands in mid-December. For most of these gigs, the band was billed as The New Generation, although the Marquee gigs list them as The Jimmy Cliff Big Sound. The only exception is a show at the Cue Club in Paddington, West London on 28 January where the band was billed as The Sound System, which may originally have been assigned for Cliff’s second support group (see below), although Dave Pegg’s version did honour this gig. Notable gigs: 15 December 1965 – The Ritz Ballroom, King’s Heath, West Midlands It’s not entirely clear why Jimmy Cliff & The New Generation went their separate ways in early February 1966. Dave Pegg’s diary shows that a gig planned for 6 February was cancelled and on 13 February he was back in Birmingham working with a new band – The Uglys. The decision to find a second band to back Cliff on the road was probably made in mid-late January and Chris Blackwell already knew who he wanted for the job. Jimmy Cliff & The Sound System/New Generation (February-July 1966) Jimmy Cliff – lead vocals The next group to back Jimmy Cliff on the road was also, somewhat confusingly, initially billed as The New Generation, although they also used the name The Sound System. Promoters added to the confusion by sometimes billing the band as The Jimmy Cliff Big Sound and The Jimmy Cliff Sound. The Sound System, as they became around early January, had originally been called The Phil Wainman Band/Set. Phil Wainman, who years later found fame as a noted producer among other things, had first started out as a drummer in the early 1960s, working with The Hi Grades in Sweden and The Paramounts before linking up with the remnants of West London band, The All-Nite Workers around October 1965. Ron Thomas, Mel Wayne and Dave Mahoney had all been members of this group, which had morphed out of Mike Dee & The Prophets in early-mid 1965. Mick Fletcher joined when it became The Phil Wainman Band/Set around October 1965 after playing in The Herd while Tony Sinclair and John Droy came in soon after, the former from Johnny Halliday’s band in France. According to David Katz’s excellent book, “Jimmy Cliff – An Unauthorised Biography”, The Phil Wainman Band/Set secured a residency at Dolly’s Club in Jermyn Street in central London around November of that year. One night Chris Blackwell dropped in and introduced himself. After be-friending Wainman, he kept the musicians in mind as a support band for the Jamaican acts on Island Records’ roster, including Jackie Edwards, Millie Small and Owen Gray. Changing name to The Sound System, Wainman’s band started rehearsing with these acts in late January and one early gig, backing Owen Gray, took place at the New All Star Club in Artillery Passage near Liverpool Street station, London on 5 February 1966. Around this time, it became clear that Cliff and the original New Generation would be separating so Wainman’s band started rehearsing with the singer when he wasn’t gigging with Dave Pegg’s group. After a few weeks’ rehearsals, Jimmy Cliff & The Sound System/New Generation debuted at the Marquee on 10 February, billed as The Jimmy Cliff Big Sound. Over the next four and half months, Wainman’s band backed Cliff on the road, which included a package tour with The Who and The Spencer Davis Group in April 1966. It was during this time that Keith Moon spotted Wainman’s Red Sparkle Premier drum kit with two bass drums and decided to switch to the same set up two months later. According to Wainman, Jimmy Cliff & The Sound System/New Generation were particularly popular in Grimsby and played there at least once a month. They also played four nights at the Penthouse. However, shortly after the California Ballroom gig in Dunstable on 1 July, Jimmy Cliff and The Sound System/New Generation went their separate ways. It’s not clear who backed Jimmy Cliff for a series of gigs that took place at London’s Whisky A Go Go on 9, 16 and 23 August as no support band is listed in Melody Maker. By early September, however, Cliff had joined forces with his next group, The Shakedown Sound. As for The Sound System, the musicians joined forces with singer Gary Hamilton who was putting together a new version of Hamilton & The Movement (see future entry). Notable gigs: 10 February 1966 – Marquee with Steampacket (billed as Jimmy Cliff Big Sound) Copyright © Nick Warburton, 2012. All Rights Reserved. No part of this article may be reproduced or transmitted in any form or by any means, without prior permission from the author. To contact the author, email: Warchive@aol.com I’d like to thank the following for their help in piecing this story together: Dave Pegg, David Katz, Laurie Hornsby, Andy Neill, Ron Thomas, Phil Wainman, Mel Wayne and Brian Hosking. Most of the live gigs above are taken from Melody Maker’s listing. The California Ballroom, Dunstable website also proved useful as did the Nottingham Evening Post. Thanks also to the Manchester Soul site for the Twisted Wheel gig. ![]() |
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The Tortians and the De'Vells
Submitted by Chas Kit on April 7, 2012 - 4:03pm. DeVells | Tortians | US | Texas | Dallas | Irving | Oak Cliff | Karry Way![]() The De'Vells from Irving, Texas, from left: Joel Reiner, Rick Surratt, Dicky McDonald, John Tincher, Carl Lowe and Little David. |
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| To the long list of great 45s out of Dallas, add The Tortians' "Red Cadillac". The band lays down a chunky groove that never sounds rushed, as John Tincher shouts out the lyrics and plays some fantastic harmonica.
The band was actually from Oak Cliff, but this rare single was released on Karry Way Records, with an address of 4339 Jaffee, Dallas, 75216. The RCA custom pressing code, T4KM-9629/30 indicates it was mastered in the first half of 1966. Woodrow Pearson Baker wrote both "Red Cadillac" and the flip "Vibrations" (which I haven't heard yet), published by Rightway Pub., BMI. Guitarist Richard McDonald sent me a photo of his next group, the De'Vells, based in Irving but with some of the same members as the Tortians. Richard has a full bio on the bands at his site SpiritSteelGuitar.com, but I asked him some specifics about the Tortians and he kindly answered my questions.
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