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The Motives

The Motives photo from 1967: Barry Beaumont-Jones, Tom Winter, Clint Talbot, Dave Field and John Redpath.
The Motives: “one of the promotional pictures taken of us in 1967.” Clockwise from top center: Barry Beaumont-Jones (in suit), Tom Winter, Clint Talbot, Dave Field and John Redpath.

Updated July 2010

Clint Talbot – vocals / rhythm guitar
Tom Winter – lead guitar
Dave Field – Hammond organ
Barry Beaumont-Jones – bass
John Redpath – drums

Motives EP original
The front of the original EP record.

Five British servicemen stationed near the Dutch border at RAF Wildenwrath in West Germany formed the Motives in 1965. In 1967 they released an EP The World is a Trapezium on the Dutch Telstar label.

“God Save Our Gracious Cream” is freakbeat with a backing reminiscent of “Purple Haze”. “I Can Hear Colours” is slow, moody psych. I was recently sent files of the other two tracks on the original ep, “Ice Woman” and “Baby of the May”. “Ice Woman”, with its “Little Wing” intro might be the best of the four.

David Field, keyboardist for the group, recently contacted me and kindly provided the photos and history presented here:

My personal background is that I learned the piano as a child, learned a little guitar also during school years. I had no band experience at all before I joined the RAF. When I was posted to Wildenrath, Clint Talbot (vocals) had formed the original band with a different drummer and lead guitarist, (neither particularly good) and Barry Beaumont-Jones on bass. They were all serving RAF members.

Motives EP back
The back of the original EP record.
Clint and I worked in the same hangar and I used to sit in during practice sessions which were held in the hangar crew-room at night. As we all worked shifts, there were occasions when one member or another could not get time off for a particular gig and I offered to stand in on either lead or bass. I did this on several occasions to help out. I then revealed that I could read music and could play the piano. They suggested that I join the group permanently as a keyboard player. Eventually a second-hand instrument was acquired and that’s how I started with The Motives.

John Redpath was a schoolboy whose father was in the RAF at Wildenrath. If I remember correctly, he was a friend of Barry Beaumont-Jones who suggested he come to a practice session. He did, got on the drumkit of the original drummer, and blew us all away with his drumming skills. A short while later, the original drummer was voted out by the band members and John Redpath invited to join the band.

The 1970 Killroy issue of two songs from the EP.
The 1970 Killroy issue of two songs from the EP.
A similar thing happend with Tom Winter. He was also a civilian, the son of a Security Officer at RAF Wildenrath who had heard about the group and turned up at a practive session one night. He asked if he could play a number with us, borrowed the guitar of the original lead guitarist and proceded to dazzle us with his skills. The original lead guitarist quickly realised that Tom was in a different league and left voluntarily. Tom then joined us!

The band had been doing very well and becoming more popular throughout Germany with both the Service venues and civilian clubs. Our manager was also a member of the RAF and stationed with those of the band who were service personnel at RAF Wildenrath near Wassenburg, quite close to the Dutch border. He was Sgt Graham McMurdo, a Scotsman who had a flair for organisation and was a communications expert in the RAF. The bass player, Barrie Beaumont-Jones worked in the same section as Graham who was, in fact, Barrie’s boss.

Graham had decided that we should record a demo record to help to promote the band. This was to be done at the ‘Telstar’ Recording Studio in Weert, Holland. The band paid for around 120 copies. Some were kept to distribute around promotional organisations and used as prizes during our gigs throughout Germany. The remainder were split between the band members to do with as they pleased. My family still have 4 copies.

Incidentally, the sleeve of the EP record was designed and drawn by Tom Winter who, apart from being an incredible guitar player, was also a very talented artist. The drawing of the chap on the front of the record sleeve wearing spectacles, is actually a caricature of Graham Mc Murdo!

The tracks we were to record at ‘Telstar’ were all written by Tom Winter. We had of course practised them all beforehand, however, when we got to the studio, we virtually rearranged all of the tracks from what had been practised as we had the full facilities of the recording studio at our disposal.

The other thing I remember personally was that in the band, I used a Phillips Phillicorda keyboard which had been bought from a dutch group we used to gig with occasionally. Their keyboard player was upgrading to another keyboard and so had the Phillips available for sale. The band paid for it and I paid the band back out of my gig money! When we got to the recording studio, however, there in the corner, was a Hammond L100. I asked the sound engineer if I could use it for the recoding rather than my own instrument. He said yes and so the Hammond was used.

The tracks were all used at gigs once the EP had been produced.

A promotional poster used to advirtise gigs played by the band.
A promotional poster used to advirtise gigs played by the band. Left to right: Mr John Redpath – Percussionist Extraodinare, Mr Barry Jones – Electrical Bass Virtuoso, Mr Tom Winter – Fingers of Gold, Mr Clint Talbot – A Smile & a Song, Mr David Field – Master of the Ivories

As far as the reissue of two tracks of the EP are concerned, I new nothing of this until recently. Purely by chance, I had googled ‘The Motives’ which came up with an extract from Sweet Floral Albion Issue 13 under the www.marmalade-skies.co.uk banner. In this extract, Tom Winter and Barry Beaumont-Jones had been interviewed by someone from the webzine. The interviewer asked Barry B-Jones if he was aware that two of the tracks had been released by Killroy (KR1551 June 1970) and had featured on the ’Waterpipes & Dykes’ compilation where it had been suggested that it was the work of ‘Opus’. Interestingly, the ‘Kilroy’ label was owned by Johnny Hoes, the owner of the ‘Telstar’ label in Weert which explains pehaps what had been going on! It would be interesting to discover where the ex-members of ‘The Motives’, Telstar and the Killroy label stand legally on this reissue?

Two members of the group formed a band caled Mr Fantasy: Tom Winters and Barry Beaumont-Jones. This lasted about a year after which Tom Winter left and joined Opus 23. John Redpath joined a group called Emergency.

When I returned to the UK, I formed my own discotheque but did not continue with the keyboard until much later, and that privately at home, not in a group. I have at home a Hammond organ and a Yamaha PSR S900 keyboard.

If anyone knows of the whereabouts or email addresses of any of the former memmbers of the Motives I would like to here from them as I havn’t seen any of them since 1968.

David Field

The Motives: Left to right: Dave Field, Tom Winter, Barry Beaumont-Jones and Clint Talbot
Left to right: Dave Field, Tom Winter, Barry Beaumont-Jones and Clint Talbot
Left to right: Dave Field, Tom Winter, Barry Beaumont-Jones, John Redpath in back behind drums
Left to right: Dave Field, Tom Winter, Barry Beaumont-Jones, John Redpath in back behind drums
Left to right: Julia (Tom Winters girlfriend), Barry Beaumont-Jones and Clint Talbot
Left to right: Julia (Tom Winters girlfriend), Barry Beaumont-Jones and Clint Talbot
Left to right: Tom Winters (hidden), Barry Beaumont-Jones on tambourine, Dave Field playing bass for a change! and Clint Talbot on vocals and rhythm guitar
Left to right: Tom Winters (hidden), Barry Beaumont-Jones on tambourine, Dave Field playing bass for a change! and Clint Talbot on vocals and rhythm guitar
Motives Berlin photo
“As winners of the ‘Top of the Groups’ competition run by BFBS, we were asked to represent BFBS by playing a gig in Berlin. This was a huge affair to commemorate the starting of colour TV in Germany in 1967. All of the major radio bands of the era were there and The Motives were the only Pop band invited.” (caption by David Field)
The Fans: Taken in Rhinedahlen during the British Forces Broadcasting Service (BFBS) Germany 'Top of the Groups' competition which The Motives won.
The Fans: Taken in Rhinedahlen during the British Forces Broadcasting Service (BFBS) Germany ‘Top of the Groups’ competition which The Motives won.

Thanks to Maarten Oosterveld for the scan and transfer of the Killroy single and to Scott for sending in the other two tracks from the EP. A special thank you to David Field for the photos and history of the group.