Category Archives: Upstate New York

Those Two Plus – Alex Rotter and Dawn Mickle “I’ll Be There”

Schenectady Gazette, September 17, 1968

Those Two Plus Kennett 45 I'll Be There

Those Two Plus – “I’ll Be There” / “It’s Rainin’ (Where I’m Bound)” (both by Alex Rotter, arranged by “Those Two”) Kennett Sound 0017, 1969.

Alex Rotter and Dawn Mickle performed as simply “Those Two” in a couple news reports. The Oneonta Star noted on August 10, 1968 that the duo took second place in the Folk Music Contest at the Otsego County Fair.

The Schenectady Gazette ran a photo of the duo on September 17, 1968:

Those Two, folksingers Dawn Mickle of Warnerville and Alex Rotter of Schenectady, who won top honors at the Cobleskill Fair and first in the semi-finals of the State Fair, entertained patients at the Eden Park Nursing home …

I have a 12″ acetate from the Kennett Sound Studio that includes both songs from the single. Another 12″ acetate contains five songs performed by Alex and Dawn which were not released.

From listening, I believe four of these to be original songs: “If I Were Free”, “Take Me to the Land of Lovin'”, “I Can Tell”, and “I Know What You Mean to Say” (titles are based on the lyrics), along with a version of Fred Neil’s “The Other Side of this Life”:

The Kennett Studio labels are blank.

Thank you to Peter Aaron for loan of the Those Two Plus single, and for finding the Gazette article on the duo.

Heathens – “The Other Way Around” / “Problems” on Vibra

The Heathens came from Schenectady, NY and cut one of the greatest singles of the area “The Other Way Around” / “Problems” on Vibra L-104. The Heathens recorded at Vibra Sound Recording Studio, but the cavernous sound does not diminish the energy of the group.

Michael Dellario wrote both songs and sang lead vocals. The labels credit Hooker, Stahl, Petticrew, Sheer & Marquez for arrangement.

I had to look back to Steve Rosen’s article in Kicks #2 for a full listing of the band, as there was none on the internet. In the article, the members are listed as

Michael Dellerio – lead vocals
Laddie Stahl – guitar
Steve Pedicrue – guitar
Larry Hooker – keyboards
Paul Marques – bass
Mike Sherer – drums

The article lists different last names for four members of the band than the record labels. I suspect the article has a number of typos. Going by the labels the lineup would be:

Michael Dellario – lead vocals
Laddie Stahl – guitar
Steve Petticrew – guitar
Larry Hooker – keyboards
Paul Marquez – bass
Mike Sheer – drums

The article gives some interesting information about Vibra Sound studio:

The Heathens were the first to record at Schenectday’s first studio, Vibra Sound, which at the time was located in the home of proprietor Nate Schwartz. As Mike Dellario remembers it, conditions were primitive: “At the time, the studio was his garage and the engineering booth was his basement. I remember there was no eye contact at all. All the talking was through the microphone. Everything was done basically in just one shot, no concept of tracking.”

The Heathens broke up when the members graduated high school in June, 1967. The article states that Dellerio stuck it out with several subsequent bands and eventually cut some demos for Warner Brothers … He hopes to work with local bands on a producer/arranger level.

Mike Dellario changed his name to Michael Dellaira and became an orchestral composer.

The Sensations, including Larry Hooker with the tambourine, and George Supreneault in the white shirt at right.
Walter Phelps (who was lead guitarist for the Ravens, also managed by Marty Wade) sent in this photo of the Sensations, which had some members who would go into the Heathens.

Riccardo and the 4 Most “There’s a Reason” on Foremost Records

Riccardo and the 4 Most photoRiccardo and the 4 Most Foremost 45 There's a Reason

Riccardo and the 4 Most made one single, the great ballad “There’s a Reason” backed with a good version of “Barefootin'”, released in 1967 on Foremost Records.

The band is listed on the label: Riccardo Wright (guitar), Ralph Marotta (bass), George Leary (drums), and Douglas Jacobs (organ). Bill White wrote and sung lead on “There’s a Reason”.

Riccardo and the 4 Most Foremost 45 Barefootin'“Bare Footin'” features Ricardo Wright on lead vocals. Someone is playing trumpet on both songs, uncredited.

Later members included Joe Lattanzio (trumpet) and Tommy Watson (bass). In 1969, with an expanded horn section including Ron Rucker on trombone and Gene Hilstro on sax, the group became a nonet called the Blues Busters.

If any of the members of the band are out there, I’d like to hear from them.

The single was recorded at Kennett Sound Studio in Kinderhook. I found an acetate lacquer of both sides among a stack of Kennett demos. The Foremost Records release code U4KM-0937 indicates a 1967 RCA pressing.

Ricardo and the 4 Most Excelsior House, Troy Record, February 11, 1967
ad from February 11, 1967
It’s a little difficult to search for the band, as listings for the group in newspapers include variations such as Riccardo & the Fourmost, Ricardo and the 4 Most, Ricardo and the Foremosts, etc. The sign behind the band on stage in two photos reads “The Fabulous 4 Most”.

The earliest ad I can find for the group is from the Troy Record on February 11, 1967, noting that Ricardo and the 4 Most would be playing the Excelsior House on Snyders Lake in North Greenbush “every Friday, Saturday and Sunday”. Another ad on August 19, 1967 noted the group would play the Excelsior “every Thurs. thru Sun.

The Times Record of Troy mentioned the group playing Shaker High School in Latham twice, once on January 15, 1968, then again on May 29, 1968 in a benefit for a Shaker school in Vadawal, India. The group also played the University Twist Palace in Albany.

Another ad lists Ricardo and the Foremosts at Corkey’s on 18 Clifton St. in Waterford, April 5-7, 1968.

The Troy Record noted a Youth On Unity dance on May 29 at St. Joseph’s Church Hall in Rensselaer with the Blues Busters (“formerly known as ‘Riccardo and the foremost’ from Albany” with the Souls from Pittsfield and the Multi-colored Projections.

Riccardo and the Fabulous 4-Most
A clipping from January 25, 1969 (I don’t know the paper) describes their transformation into Ricardo and his Blues Busters:

Riccardo and The Fourmosts, as you younger people know, has enlarged from four to nine. The new nonet is called the Blues Busters and features rhythm & blues and soul music, much of it original words and music by Riccardo, the leader, and some arrangements by Al Friedman.

The Blues Busters are a living example of interracial harmony, personally and musically. They play to an enthusiastic gathering at The Royal Mousetrap from 9:30 to 3 Friday, Saturday and Sunday. The Mousetrap is on New Karner Road (Route 155) just off Central Avenue [in Colonie].

The two photos and some of the info came from the Albany Group Archive. Thank you to Al Quaglieri and Joe Lattanzio for their help with this article.

Riccardo and the Fabulous 4 Most photo

Kennett Studio lacquer 7″ for “Barefootin'”

The Essentials “Freedom” on Kandy

Essentials Kandy 45 Sunshine Baby AutographedThe Essentials came from Schagticoke, New York, and cut two singles on their own Kandy label in 1969 and 1970. Members were:

Jason Wheeler – lead guitar
Steve Wheeler – rhythm guitar
Jeff Wheeler – bass guitar
Fred “Squeekey” Stay – drums

Jeff Wheeler recalled to Max Waller:

Our ages were 13, 15, 17 and 17 at the time. We played Friday and Saturday nights and threw in a wedding now and then with the old standards on a Saturday or Sunday afternoon. Even went to Atlantic City and Raleigh, NC. cuz we won a few Battle Of The Bands – the Tea Berry song contest too (we didn’t win that tho). We made 2 45s in 1968. Never made a million but we sold 1000 records for $1 apiece after spending $500 to do it! It was fun.

The Essentials recorded at Vibra-Sound Studio in Schenectady for both their singles. The first was Kandy 101 from 1969. “Oklahoma Blues” has some falsetto vocals about a minute in, but really gets going after the guitar break, with a funky rhythm and chanting. Fred Stay and Steve Wheeler wrote “Oklahoma Blues”. Steve Wheeler wrote “Baby You Get to Me”, which I haven’t heard yet.

Essentials Kandy 45 FreedomTheir second 45, on Kandy 82042 from 1970, had two originals by Squeeky Stay. “Sunshine Baby” is light pop. I prefer “Freedom”, which starts out with wah-wah guitar over drumming and doesn’t let up for three minutes. It’s a styrene 45 and hard to find in fine shape.

Robert Barry Music published all four songs.

Squeeky Stay and Mark Galeo made another single recorded at Vibra-Sound, “Slippin’ Away” / “Mrs. Jones” on Jinhea 100.

Max Waller added, “in 2002 Jeff resided in Poestenskill, NY; Steve was in New Jersey; Jason was reported to be in Texas; and Squeeky Stay had stayed in Schaghticoke.”

Fred Stay, Jr. also played drums with a group called the World of Darkness, that back Alan Burn on two songs “Gotham City” and “See Susie Run”, released on Tuesday Records. “See Susie Run” was also on the flip of “Information (Help Me Please)” by Alan on Tuesday Records TR-1 / Tuesday Records TR-SSR.

The other members of the World of Darkness were David L. Ferretti guitar, Paul Orloski rhythm guitar, John Zullo (or John Sciuto) on bass, and Sandi La Barge on organ.

Thank you to Max Waller for help with this article.

Anyone have a photo of the Essentials?

The Cleaners from Schenectady & the East Coast Clique

Cleaners band photo, Schenectady
Can anyone please ID who is who in this photo

Cleaners Knight 45 How I FeelThe Cleaners came from Schenectady, New York, releasing two singles in 1966 and 1967.

Members included Larry Parks (listed in songwriting credits as Larry Podrazik), Bob Ives (Robert Iovinella), Bob Sands and Jay Camp.

Cleaners Knight 45 If You Want Me

The Cleaners’ first single was the super-soulful “How I Feel” b/w “If You Want Me” (described on the label as Rock-Jazz), both originals by Podrazik and Iovinella. A comment below mentions booking manager George DeVito recording the songs in his home studio. However, I have a 8″ laquer acetate of both songs from Earl Kennett’s studio. The sound of the bass, and the echo of the hand claps on “If You Want Me” suggests Earl’s studio rather than a home recording.

It was issued on Knight Records KN 3, of Bellevue Station, Schenectady, with a State Music Productions credit; the ZTSP 122826/7 codes indicate a Columbia custom issue, a styrene 45.

Podrazik and Iovinella copyrighted the songs in April and May of 1966, along with another original, “Just Until the End of Time” that was not released but would remain part of their live set.

Cleaners Kleener Style 45 DustIn July of 1967 Podrazik and Iovinella registered another original song, “Dust”. The Cleaners cut it at Kennett Sound Studio in Kinderhook, NY, along with a cover of “Hold Me, Thrill Me, Kiss Me”, released on their own Kleener Style Records 0011.

These were among the earliest singles issued out of Earl Kennett’s studio, which would go on to record and release over twenty 45s into the 1970s.

From the 1967 index of copyright registration

Not long after, the East Coast Clique recorded “Dust” backed with another Podrazik/Iovinella original, “Last Stop (Everybody’s Getting Off)”, both with NemSong publishing. Released as Charter Records 0016, the Kennett Sound credit at the bottom indicates the studio, as does the 00 prefix on the release number 0016. The production on this version is fuller, with the drums more prominent and danceable.

The East Coast Clique, including at least two members of the Cleaners

A Schenectady news clipping about the East Coast Clique mentions a single on the “Cleaner Style” label, so the Clique were a continuation of the Cleaners with a new band name, and some different members. Larry Parks and Bob Ives had been in the Cleaners, and the East Coast Clique’s other members included Sal Cannavo, Kent Brust and John Malik.

The article states:

One of the group’s songs, “Just Until the End of Time,” arranged by Bob Ives, leader, and Larry Parks, will be dedicated to the memory of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. during the performance.

Now appearing at the Bavarian Lodge in Hudson, the East Coast Clique … record on the Cleaner Style label and have appeared on Hank Brown’s Twistorama over WKTV, channel 2.

There is an 12″ acetate from Kennett Sound Studio of three songs by the East Coast Clique: a later version of “How I Feel”, “Last Stop (Everybody’s Getting Off)” and “Just Until the End of Time”. The second song was issued as the B-side to their single on Charter Records, “Dust” but I am not sure if this is the same version.

Podrazik and Iovinella registered two additional songs in 1968: “Captain Miller’s Flying Circus”, and “Sleepy Boy” (this last one shows Earl Kennett contributing to the music arrangement).

Cleaners Kennett Sound Studio Demo 45 Baby I Won't Be Lonely
Kennett Sound Studio acetate for the Cleaners “Baby I Won’t Be Lonely”, from 1969. Scan courtesy of Brian Kirschenbaum

In January 1969, they registered “Baby, I Won’t Be Lonely”, which exists on a Kennett demo acetate as by the Cleaners, so it may have been considered for release.

Later copyrights include “I’m So Happy” (October 1969, with words by Brummer).

Al Quaglieri wrote a profile of Bob Iovinella for the March 8-14, 1990 issue of Metroland. He describes how Iovinella and Larry Parks had a five-year publishing contract by Nat Weiss, but only two songs saw publication in that time.

In 1970, Larry Parks had a solo composition “Pay Day” (using the name Adam Parks) recorded by Sha Na Na.

Starting in 1980, Iovinella and Parks would work together again as partners in Hendi-Parksives Productions.

Thank you to Brian Kirschenbaum for scans of the East Coast Clique 45 and the Cleaners acetate. Thank you to Bobby Iovinella for the photo at top and to Mikael for the news clipping.

The Villagers “Wishes and Memories” / “Cry On” on Kennett Sound

Villagers Kennett Sound 45 Wishes and MemoriesThe Villagers included Phil Haskins, Rick Haskins and Charles Petit.

They cut their only single in very early 1969 at Kennett Sound Studio, located in a renovated barn just south of the village of Kinderhook, NY.

Phil Haskins wrote the words to the slow, lovely “Wishes and Memories” and co-wrote the music with Rick Haskins (Richard J. Haskins).

Charles R. Petit wrote the more soul-styled “Cry On”, copyright registered February, 1969.

There is no label name, but Kennett Sound appears on other singles by the Cleaners and East Coast Clique, and the 0018 release number is similar to others from that studio, usually four digits starting with 00.

Anyone have a photo of the group?

Villagers Kennett Sound 45 Cry On

Thee Illusion and Brass, Albion, NY, 1965-1971

Thee Illusion at the Erie Canal Fest, August 1967, from left: Alan, Tommy, Jim and Slate
Misfits photo with Tommy McNall, Slate Raymond, Alan Farnsworth
Misfits photo with Slate Raymond on guitar and Alan Farnsworth on drums

Jim Kriss compiled an amazing history of Thee Illusion (later known as Thee Illusion and Brass). There are dozens of great photos, a detailed history, and info on other groups from the area like the Humans and the Cult.

The PDF is available at the link below – a fairly large file, 22 MB.

https://garagehangover.com/images2020/TheeIllusionAndBrassAlbionNY1965-71.pdf

Below is Jim’s list of musicians in the Misfits and Thee Illusion and Brass:

Tom McNall – (original member of the Misfits and Thee Illusion – Rhythm/Lead guitar and vocals
T. Slate Raymond – (original member of the Misfits and Thee Illusion) – Lead Guitar
Alan Farnsworth – (original member of the Misfits and Thee Illusion – Drums, Bass Guitar and Vocals
Jim Kriss – (original member of Thee Illusion) – Drums and Vocals
Mark Heard – (second generation member of Thee Illusion) – Keyboards
Ray Colonna – (second generation member of Thee Illusion and Brass) – Percussion and Roadie
Steve Rustay – (first generation member of Thee Illusion and Brass) – Trumpet and Percussion
Bob Mathes – (first generation, former member of Thee Illusion and Brass) – Trumpet
Chuck Lafferty – (second generation member of Thee Illusion and Brass) – Trumpet and Percussion

The Black Banana and Banana Music Ltd. from Limestone, NY

Black Banana Fog 45 Listen GirlThe Black Banana had two singles under different band names. The first 45 I’d heard but hadn’t connected to the second because of the different artist name until Mike Markesich pointed out the connection in his comment below. Mike kindly provided scans of the 1st single as the Black Banana.

The group was from Limestone, in upstate New York, only a little west of Olean, the home of the Tigermen. The Tigermen were active earlier, but perhaps the bands knew each other. Mike tells me the band was also based in Bradford, Pennsylvania, just south of Limestone.

Reversing the usual way of garage bands, the group formed after some of the members had finished their military service. They have a great mid-’60s sound on both their singles despite the late recording dates.

Black Banana Fog 45 Please Come Back to Me
Both singles list the members on the label, for this first one the lineup is:

Fred Mascioni
Karl Langner
Dave McGee

Denny Eck would join the group on guitar by the time of the second single, but he is credited with co-writing “Listen Girl” with McGee and Mascioni.

McGee and Mascioni wrote “Please Come Back to Me” which I haven’t heard yet.

Karl Langner and Arnold White designed the cool label, and Car Hamme engineered the recording. This is an RCA custom pressing from 1969.

Banana Music Ltd Fog 45 Don't Bother Me
The second release has the Fog label but the band name is changed to Banana Music Ltd. It may date as late as 1971.

Members were:

Fred Mascioni
Karl Langner
Dave McGee
Denny Eck

Denny Eck wrote “Don’t Bother Us” and Mascioni & Eck wrote “Walkin'”.

The group is listed as “The Mack Banana Band” in the Bradford Era newspaper from August 1, 1969. From the excerpt I could find online, all the members names are listed except Denny Eck:

The new sound around, come and listen to music written & played by THE MACK BANANA Band — Fred Mascioni, Karl Langner, Dave McGee …

Besides Fog Music Inc., there are other production credits on the labels: “Langner Label”, “Rotten Crates Music Corp.” and “Black Banana”.

When Mike Markesich contacted Fred Mascioni he mentioned there were songs cut for an album that went unreleased.

Thank you to Mike for his help with this post.
Banana Music Ltd Fog 45 Walkin'

The Penetrators from Crown Point, NY

Penetrators Penstar 45 Guitar BoogieThe Penetrators came from Crown Point, NY, on the west shore of Lake Champlain above Ticonderoga.

Members included Dan Rabideau and Larry Rabideau, Kim Joiner and Joe Dugan on bass. John Hoffman seems to have been a later member of the group.

There is a single by the Penetrators on Penstar Records 1146, “Guitar Boogie” / “Coming Home Baby”, both instrumentals. I’m not yet positive this is the same as the Crown Point group.

Penetrators Ferus 45 I'll Make You MineIn March of 1968 they made what I believe to be their second record, the cool garage original “I’ll Make You Mine” by Dan Rabideau and Kim Joiner, backed with a good instrumental, “Splitter Splatter” by Dan Rabideau and Larry Rabideau.

The 45 came out on Ferus Records FR 4958. Ferus had an address of 64-12 60th Pl., Brooklyn 27, New York. Tommy Wilde produced the single, I’m not sure how the band came to find Ferus.

Danny and the Penetrators Ticonderoga Sentinel 1971
1971 Battle of the Bands
This is a styrene 45 with the Columbia custom pressing code ZTSP 124958/9. Both songs published by Ferus Music BMI.

As Danny and the Country Penetrators they put out a single that I haven’t heard, “She’s My Mother-In-Law” / “I’ll Be Waiting” on Delta Records in June of 1968.

The band was well known locally as as Danny and the Penetrators. They appeared on the Ted Mack Amateur Hour and continued with local bookings into the 1970s.

From a 1971 news item, it appears the Rabideau’s mother Doris managed the band.

Info on the band from a Port Henry forum. Thank you to Anthony M. for the original 45.

Anyone have a photo of the group?

Penetrators Ferus 45 Splitter Splatter

The Chimes of Freedom “Jungle Rock”

Chimes of Freedom USS 45 Jungle RockThe Chimes of Freedom came from Scotia, New York, near Schenectady and Albany. “Jungle Rock” is known from Girls in the Garage, but the Dead Wax blog shows this was not an all-girl group: Mari Salato vocals, Chip Vedder vocals, Bill Pytlovany lead guitar, Paul Hamilton rhythm guitar, Jeff Austin bass guitar, and Darrell Francis drums.

Hamilton, Francis and Pytlovany wrote “Jungle Rock”, while the original A-side was “Did You Ever”, a ballad by Francis and Pytlovany.

This is a hard single to date, I don’t see anything in the dead wax other than stamped 102A/B, and the label code USS 102 is also obscure. The Robert Barry Music credit helps connect this to the Vibra-Sound Recording Studio in Schenectady.

Chimes of Freedom USS 45 Did You Ever