Simla Beat

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This is about as obscure as garage gets. For two years, 1970 and 1971, a cigarette company in India sponsored some kind of battle-of-the-bands competition, with the winners going to Calcutta to record for compilations called Simla Beat. Each year an lp was released with no info about the bands other than their hometown. Also issued was this 45 released with two of the better tracks and some silly liner notes on the back of the sleeve (detail here).

Some people think this is a hoax, or that the recordings came from somewhere other than India. It's true that some bands have a similar sound, though this could be from sharing a studio and perhaps instruments as well. Also, the bands lean heavily on American rock of the time and show very little British influence.

The Confusions from Madras cut this amazing original, Voice from the Inner Soul. Tough, heavy sound with a rudimentary beat. Sharp, bluesy guitar fills and an organ sound right out of 1966. The Dinosaurs, from Bangladore, contribute a fine cover of Creedence's Sinister Purpose, giving Fogerty writing credit, somewhat surprisingly given the usual global practice of song appropriation. This one's got nice fuzz guitar and gravely vocals, I'd say it surpasses the original.

All my research so far turns up no other information about the groups on these releases. Hopefully someone associated with this project will come forward and fill us in on the story behind Simla Beat.

The Confusions - Voice from the Inner Soul

The Dinosaurs - Sinister Purpose


Simla Beat Contest memories

I was a kid of 8 years when my parents took me to see the Simla Beat Contests 70/71. If I remember correctly, they were held in SHANMUKHANANDA HALL in Bombay, a famous place for dramas, concerts, recitals at that time.

In those days, India was starved for music. It was very hard to get Passports or USD for travel. There was only one show on the radio playing English music for an hour a week, and that was mostly pathetic pop ( Carpenters, Anka, Denver for example).

Most music trickled down into India via Cassettes smuggled in by "My friends's girlfriend who is an airhostess with AIR INDIA"

Hence a chance to hear Psych, Rock was a godsend.

This was my first exposure to the likes of CCR, Cream though I didnt know those names then and only realised 10 years later that Bayou was originally sung by CCR.

My dad got hold of the LPs of Simla Beat Contest and we recorded them on our spool player. I remember listening to them very often ( Along with our recording of Woodstock)

Recently, there was a tune playing over and over in my head and I realised I first heard it on the Simla Beat Contest LPs. I obtained the recording and I was immediately transported into my childhood.

There it was, a raw recording of young kids, with their very live feeling, you can make out that the recording is not the greatest ( Its noisy and not well balanced) , the singing is slightly out of tune sometimes, but its pure raw live music. You can feel you are right there with the band in a practice session

In many ways, Simla Beat contest was one of the reasons why I purchased a Guitar when I was 15 and have spend the last 30 years trying to play it !!!!

Hemant Rao

You will never believe this, I just met Mr Hemant Rao of the Savages, they won the 1967 Simla Beat Contest !!

Indian Sixties

Hey man, would you introduce me to Mr Hemant Rao ? I would be much obliged.

Regards.

Joseph.C.Pereira

Re: Bands from India

Dear Friends,

I have been curious about the Indian music scene. I was born in Malaysia and brought to Singapore. My parents were of Indian origin. I had a cousin who studied there between 1965 and 1972 and he told me about the scene there and about Indian bands.

My wife's cousin was in a band in India called Silencers. He was the drummer and his name was Frankie Suppiah. He was in a band called X-periments and his father decided to send him to India in 1969 so that he could look after the family business in India and do his university education there. He went on a condition. His father had to provide him with a couple of band instruments. They shipped a container.

Frankie went with three other Singaporeans which made for a complete band. They performed in Madras and made a sensation because of their equipment. A guitar player with a band called Devil Beats who I met in New Delhi in 2002 told me about being at that concert. The curtain parted and they were playing White Room. That was weird enough but what caught his eye was their equipment. Ludwig drum set, Fender amps and Fender guitars. That was really far out. No one in India at that time had access to that sort of equipment. Silencers played New Delhi after that and was featured in some Indian films of that time. Maybe providing soundtrack. I have tried talking to my wife's cousin to get more details about his band in India but he is reluctant to talk.

Regards.

Joseph.C.Pereira

Hi Yes, I remember the

Hi

Yes, I remember the Silencers in Madras in the late 60s. They were the hottest band around, and their star was Frankie, who used to do drum solos, the highpoint being a blindfolded drum solo

What did he do after that? Where is he now?

Frankie Suppiah

Mr Anvar, sorry if this reply is rather late. I had forgotten about this website. Frankie was my wife's first cousin. He returned to Singapore in 1971 after having been in India for three years. He joined a rock band called Fried Ice which featured an exceptional left handed guitar player called Ray Anthony. The description hard hitting described Frankie to a tee. He then rejoined Experiments. He was in this band before the he left for India. He played with them till 1983 and left the band then when they disbanded for good. He joined the family firm, Seashore Transportation and I believe still works in this firm. My wife do not have much contact with him and neither do I. Experiments did release one LP in 1979 called Chinatown Rock. Hope this information helps.

The Quests, The Yardbirds, Led Zeppelin, Bombay '71/72

If this post is indeed from Joseph C. Pereira, I really enjoy your post here foremost. I just saw the the Yardbirds couple days ago. Since the Quests opened for the Yardbirds in Singapore in Jan'67 I have searched for any archival photos of that performance or any footage? perhaps from the audience?

I have also been in touch with Nandu Bhende as you have been in communication/interview with him, specifically about Led Zeppelin.

I do have suggestion for you very seriously. You and Nandoo Bhende must coauthor a book being pioneers of Rock in Eastern Part of the World. I see only scattered bits and pieces of the music scene of early 60's and 70's in India, UNFORTUNATE. It must be completely documented for future generations. I find it hearbreaking to see particularly, Led Zeppelin Visits '71/'72 just so short of information. Truth is it was a real performance. Led Zeppelin actually performed at the Slip Disc. They stayed at the Taj Mahal Hotel. Prior to Led Zeppelin, Jimmy Page visited India '67 as Yardbirds tour concluded in India. He met with Ravi Shankar in India? For sure he has met Ravi Shankar in previous England Peformance.

I hope you seriously will document the details above somehow in a book, or perhaps a 2-3 part article in Times of India. I am surprised that when Zeppelin visited in '71/'72 no one took many photographs except just one that is floating around the internet? No video from any one, Bombay being a film town?

Joseph, I hope that you will continue this thought with your writer/friend Nandu Bhende.

If you can unearch any archival photos, etc. re. Zeppelin that would be beyond beautiful.

...Please continue this passionate dedication for all the future generation to see. Your contribution will be beyond words...

Jas
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The Quests, Yardbirds, Led Zeppelin, India etc

Dear Jas,

I am sorry that I am replying to your note rather late. I have just read it today. August 11, 2010. Your idea is good. It will be a monumental task though to write about Indian Sixties music. I am intrigued as well. My cousin studied in India for seven years and he told me about the scene when he returned in 1972. He mentioned Junior Statesmen magazine. I have been in touch with Nandu Bhende and we have talked about the Indian Sixties numerous times. I have thought of remastering Simla Beat. It came out on a German label but was not remastered. It sounds weak when played on a decent system. I have also contacted people like Ralph Pais of Savages and another friend who played in Bangalore's Devil Beats. I also met a Singaporean who was in the band called Human Bondage from Bangalore. I realise that India is a big country and surely there must have been a lot of bands in every state in India during that decade. I found a single by the Mustangs from Madras at Moore Market.

This project is interesting but getting information and getting leads of members of bands from that time is the hurdle. How to get them ?

Still you have aroused my interest. Just for your information I authored one book on Singapore musicians called Legends of The Golden Venus and am finishing a second book on Singapore Sixties presently. I have also produced six cd releases of Singapore Sixties.

If we could do the same for India. My e-mail is jpreynolds@pacific.net.sg

I have a Facebook profile which you can access and see pictures of Singapore bands. Perhaps one could be created of Indian bands.

Let us keep talking. This is interesting.

Regards.

Joseph.C.Pereira

p.s I do have a faded picture of Jimmy Page playing the violin bow at the Yardbirds concert in Singapore in January 1967. It is on my Facebook profile pictures.

Hell yeah, i was shocked as

Hell yeah, i was shocked as hell, when my uncle told me that there was a whole bunch of Indian garage bands back then! the scene had been stagnant since the late 80s till the early 2000s (lot of amazing bands coming out now, but that's a different story). And yeah, access to non-commercial music in India is virtually non-existent. Psych, hard rock, punk, all we could get thanks to our uncles who would come from abroad.

Oh yeah, the very first "punk rocker" group came from Gujarat (which is where most of the Indians living abroad hail from), called The Raj Put Down. I hope and pray someone else from the scene back then, could shed some light upon this band. I'm guessing late 70s.......

Oh by the way, my band's gonna cover "Voice From The Inner Soul", whatta fuckin' song! It's time for Generation Y of India to learn about our great rock n' roll heritage :).

Simla Beat

Hey Chas! Thanks for raking up the past! I have some vague memories of this. Was too young to have been for any of the shows, but my cousin's band featured in one of the albums. They were called 'The Gurus' and that album also featured an original gem by another very seminal rock band from Calcutta, 'Great Bear'. Can't remember the names of their songs... Calcutta at that time had a very vibrant rock music scene with almost all the restaurants on Park Street featuring live music that included rock, jazz (Louis Banks, Braz Gonsalves, Pam Crain...), pop (Usha Uthup, previously Iyer), and Hindi/Bangla filmi pop. I believe the scene had moved way beyond garage band genre. I think the finals were once held in Calcutta at Kala Mandir which no longer permits rock music shows! In fact, apart from restaurants (and NOT pubs as it is today!), rock concerts were regularly held in auditoriums. The concept of college fests featuring live bands had yet to arrive.

"Great Bear' in a later avatar and a slightly different line-up became 'High' in the late 70s and early 80s with the late, great Dilip Balakrishnan at the helm. Saregama early this year (2009) released a remastered compilation of some their songs on CD and it is available in music stores in Calcutta but not sure about other places. It's called "High Again" and I strongly recommend it to anyone who wants to know the shape of early original Indian rock music in English. It's kick-ass stuff!

There was even a JS-Cordel Beat Contest which became the successor to Simla Beat. JS being that pioneering, but now defunct, youth magazine from Calcutta - Junior Statesman. Cordel was the name of a suitings/shirtings fabric manufacturer. I think that too lasted for a couple of years. Those interested can get more information from The Statesman's archives in Calcutta. Unfortunately, I doubt very much that they have digitized their JS archives because you won't find it on their website.

Anyway, there are a lot of musicians still around and performing in India who were very much part of the scene. Guys like Lew Hilt (now HFT/Great Society, then High), Nondon Bagchi (now Hip Pocket, then Great Bear/High), Lou Majaw (now solo/Great Society, then Blood & Thunder/Great Society) are still doing great performances and keeping live English rock music alive.

Cheers!

Simla Beat 70: The Confusions

I have to laugh a bit. After checking out many of the California bands on your site I thought I would try some of the bands from other nations. India looked like a good start as there is currently (September 2009), only one entry. I was half expecting sitars and tablas like a George Harrison Beatles song. This being Garagehangover I should have known better. Actually the two Simla Beat tracks are cool. I too would love to hear an entire album. About the Confusions track "Voice from the Inner Soul", I being 55 years old noticed that this song sounds remarkably like the Jefferson Airplane's song "Ballad of You and Me and Pooneil" from their album After Bathing At Baxters. I guess the youth of India was influenced by the San Francisco sound.

This is a great web site. I'll have to tell a few friends about it. I might even want to make a contribution someday. I can think of one strange single I have that must have an interesting story behind it. It is not exactly "garage" style (ca. 1973-75), but it is rare and very odd. Interested?

simla beat

Simla Beat 70/71 is a collection of tracks from the All-India Simla Beat Contest, which was organized in the late-1960s by the India Tobacco Company. In an attempt to reach the youth market, the India Tobacco company billed itself as "the oldest cigarette company with a young heart" and tried to attach its brand name to rock music. The contest was first held in 1968 and became an annual event thereafter. As the contest grew, a subsidiary of EMI released the LP Simla Beat 70, which collected the winning tracks from the 1970 contest, and followed the next year with Simla Beat 71. A label ill-advisedly named Ten Little Indians reissued Simla Beat 70/71 as a double-LP in 1997, and Normal Records released this as a double-CD in 1999. Normal Records did a nice job of packaging the CD reissue of Simla Beat 70/71, but for some reason they chose not to add any information about the significance of the All-India Simla Beat Contest. This release includes the artwork and liner notes from the original LPs, but no further information. This is more than a little disappointing, as the original liner notes are not very informatiive, being more or less a commercial for the company that staged the event. From the information available, however, it's clear that this was a major event in Indian rock & roll. All in all, 13 bands representing nine Indian cities are featured on these discs, and the music on Simla Beat 70/71 is surprisingly Western sounding. Anyone expecting sitars and tabla drums is in for a shock, as most of the tracks feature a guitar-bass-drums-vocals lineup, and a number of the tracks are covers of American songs. Simla Beat 70 contains two Creedence Clearwater Revival covers ("Sinister Purpose" by the Dinosaurs, who were from Bangalore, and "Born on the Bayou" by the X'Lents, who were from Ahmedabad—presumably they weren't singing about the bayou in Ahmedabad!). Simla Beat 71 included a couple of blues covers, Skip James's "I'm So Glad" is covered by the Velvette Fogg and Howlin' Wolf's "Killing Floor", performed by the Hipnotic Eye. More than likely the Indian bands who recorded these songs had only heard the versions recorded by popular rock artists. Cream included "I'm So Glad" on the 1966 album Fresh and "Killing Floor" was the debut single of the Electric Flag in 1968, not to mention that Jimi Hendrix had performed this song at the Monterey Pop Festival in 1967. Other songs on Simla Beat 70/71 make specific reference to psychedelia (the X'Lents recorded a track called "Psychedelia" and the Brood of Vipers perform "Psychedelic Web"). Psychedelic titles and band names aside, these tracks by and large are straightforward garage rock. This is not a criticism, as the tracks here are inspired recordings with a refreshing guitar-bass-drums-vocals simplicity. Having said that, easily the best track in this collection is the most "eastern" sounding one, "Simla Beat Theme" by the Fentones. "Simla Beat Theme" is a hipnotic instrumental track that increases in tempo and in intensity over four transcendent minutes. It's ironic that the Fentones achieved that "eastern" sound with a guitar-bass-drums arrangement that so many British and American bands were trying to achieve by adding a sitar to their sound. All in all, Simla Beat 70/71 is a good collection. The main criticism of the music here is that the Indian bands were perhaps trying to sound too American, but Simla Beat 70/71 is a fascinating release that is definitely worth searching for.

Tracklist:

01 - Confusion - Voice from the inner soul
02 - Dinosaurs - You can't beat it.
05 - Dinosaurs - Sinister purpose.
06 - Great bear - Mist.mp3
07 - X'lents - Born on the bayou.
08 - Innerlight - Baby baby please.
09 - The fentones - Simla beat theme.
10 - Nomads - Nothing is the same
11 - Hypnotic eye - killing floor
12 - Velvette fog - I'm so glad.
13 - Black beats - The mod trade.
14 - Brood of vipers - Psychedelic web.
15 - Hypnotic eye - Aimless lady.
16 - Pat farrell - Brand new baby.
17 - The conductors - She said so.
18 - Soul Generation - I can't see you.
19 - The couriers - Feelings.
20 - Changing tymes - You make it hard.

re: Simla Beat

That track list is incorrect, I've seen it floating around the internet for some time. For one thing, the last five tracks you list are by U.S. groups and had absolutely nothing to do with the Simla Beat LPs.

Correct track listings:

Simla Beat '70:

Confusion - Voice from the Inner Soul
Dinosaurs - You Can't Beat It
X'lents - Psychedelia
Innerlite - Zorba's Dance
Genuine Spares - Proper Stranger
Genuine Spares - What's Going On
Dinosaurs - Sinister Purpose
Great Bear - Mist
X'lents - Born on the Bayou
Innerlight - Baby Baby Please

Simla Beat '71:

The Fentones - Simla Beat Theme
Nomads - Nothing Is the Same
Hypnotic Eye - Killing Floor
Mini Beats - Hey Gipsy Girl
Velvette Fog - I'm So Glad
The Black Beats - The Mod Trade
The Eruptions - I Am Gonna Erupt
The Fentones - Until the Dawn
Brood of Vipers - Psychedelic Web
The Eruptions - You Can't Judge a Book
Hypnotic Eye - Aimless Lady

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Simla Beat 70: The confusions

How right you are. The bands in India were very majorly influenced by the San Fran sound. I remember living in Calcutta in the late 70s and through the 80s. During that time, Grateful Dead albums were sold in shops at atrocious prices to collectors due to unavailability of the music. Gerry would have been real sad if he had known that his music was used for profit mongering. Janis, the Byrds, Jefferson Airplane, Camel, the Charlatans, all of this music was very popular with the kids and HMV released most of this music on LPs at one time or the other - some collectors would have kept their copies I am sure. Also, the launch of the movie Woodstock converted a large number of musicians who wanted to become hippies. Many parts of India, like Goa was also a favourite destination for the San Fransisco hippies and so these musicians went there and there was definitely a huge counter culture happening unknown to the rest of the world. I have been a part of this in India and I can tell you they were beautiful times. I felt the strong airplane influence too in the track you mentioned...My friend had a band called 'Temple Tramps' and they were a garage band from Madurai, commonly known as the temple town of India - they played Simla Beat contest too and there was another one called Conga Beat Contest....

I have the LP, the 33 & 1/3

I have the LP, the 33 & 1/3 one. What you've shared here is I guess is an EP a5 rpm release.

Simla Beat Contest

Hi Tirtha,
I was a member of the Kingsmen,among other bands of the 60's and we played at the Simla Beat Contest-not sure which year,though.Would you share any music that you have by local bands of that era,along with the Simla Beat Contest,with me? I'd be much obliged.
Thanks and regards,
Vernon

SimlaBeat

Excellent Sound..thanks so much for the story. I hope to see a book soon in pioneer Rock music in India.

I am looking for any pictures of the venue Slip Disc (for posting on the Official Site of Zeppelin). I have been in touch with Guitarist Nandu Bhende, performed with Zep at Slip Disc '72. It is too bad that no archival sound, photos or recording of that Zep Performance exists.

Jas

Simla Beat contest and Led Zep

Just came across this site and enjoyed the comments. Two points--Led Zep played at Slip Disc in 1972 (0r 73) but it was an impromptu event; two members Jimmy Page and Robert Plant landed up and jammed. I doubt there is any recording of it. Simla used to take place at Shanamukhananda Hall, an odd venue since it was usually reserved for Carnatic music performances. One of the contests was won by a band from Ahmedabad. Nandu, who was with savage Encounter, played in the Elphinstone College social, which we thought was very cool.

Zeppelin Bombay '72/'71

Hi, great that you responded. I have searched extensive archives for this visit. Nandu Bhende confirmed that as soon as Zeppelin left Slip Disc, an article and a photo appeared the very next day in Times of India. I have been out of touch with this famed writer/artist Nandu Bhende, I would like to obtain the article. The photo from Slip Disc is widely circulated on the internet Zepplin Bombay '72.

Led Zeppelin confirmed visit is 1972, 1st week of March (I am searching for exact date at Slip Disc/EMI Studios). Zeppelin concluded their '72 Australia tour and stopped by Bombay 1st week of March'72. This is absolute confirmation. They also booked some time in late '71 by visiting Bombay Briefly and returned in '72.

I am part of fan base who search passionately Zeppelin archives. For sure, Jimmy Page had a camera. He is pictured with movie camera in Bombay, just outside Taj Mahal Hotel with two street entertainers. You can see these photos widely circulated on the Official Site and also Richard Cole's Stairway to Heaven Book, their Tour Manager.

Second, Bombay is a film industry. The Ownder of Slip Disc is Ramzan, very much part of celebrity scene. I wonder if someone has any visual record.

Here is the article by Nandy Bhende re. Zeppelin 1972 Bombay Visit

http://nandu_bhende.tripod.com/articles/particle5.htm

If anyone has any pictures of Slip Disc, (even if some Bombay Films are shot are there, please post)

I will post the venue on the Official Site...

tks.
Jas